How to FLY around NYC (Hudson SFRA)



hey guys what's up John here from fly at

my comm flying around New York City

today here with Steph and we are going

to be cruising down the Hudson River

down the Hudson River exclusion that VFR

corridor with that special flight rules

area and telling you guys all about how

to navigate it and what your rules are

that pertain to Lyon down the corridor

alright so today we're gonna be starting

our tour of the New York skyline

we're down the Tappan Zee Bridge on the

north end of the Hudson here just north

of the city

we are having six recorded reporting

points we really need to pay attention

to and make sure we announce or passing

those mandatory reporting points on

23:05 that is the currency tab for use

in the area that is the appropriate

seats have to use and what we want to be

telling people is our aircraft type the

current position the direction we're

going and our altitude so nice short or

sweet simple communications we're gonna

be going around 1,100 feet about a

thousand to 1,100 feet staying

underneath the Bravo is saying

underneath 1300 and not going below

1,000 feet because we don't have any

attention to land anywhere in the area

so we're not transiting to or from any

of these airports in the area and we're

gonna be going ahead and simply staying

above 1,000 feet the whole time so I've

1,100 we'll try to hold that

altitude as we cruise down the river

this is America we drive on the right

side of the road we're gonna be driving

on the right side of the river heading

southbound we'll be on the western side

head north man we will be on the eastern

side alright so the aircraft type this

is a bear Hawk aircraft but we're gonna

make this simple it's gonna be a red

Super Cup today because not a lot of

people know what a bear Hawk is you say

red Super Cub that immediately invokes

the image of a highway aircraft

tailwheel aircraft with the gear hanging

down the front a little tiny wheels back

so that's B call son we're gonna be

using today just for safety's sake to

communicate a little bit better with all

the other pilots in the area red Super

Cup Alpine Power southbound 1100


auricular farms are next to be apart

here same deal right this might be the

George Washington Bridge

we are southbound on the western side of

the river don't have to say although I

would step to say that we are southbound

it's going to be a red Super Cub George

Washington Bridge

southbound 1,100 now it's probably good

time to talk about safety equipment here

we do you can't quite see and we have

these little PFDs around our waist not

the best things but if we do go in the

water they are Evangeline play PFD so at

least it won't have too hard of a time

floating in well this toxic water below

us and we're pretty close to the

shoreline but you know a hundred feet to

swim without a PFD is a big deal so at

500 feet when you do have something to

float on not such a big deal it is cold

but 50 degrees today we try be able to

get to shore and get some help and not

freeze to death and plenty of help

around here plenty of roads plenty of

people easy access gets you you're not

flying about so as long as you have some

sort of floatation device preferably a

manual floatation device that you can

activate once you get out of the

aircraft help you float you don't want

to activate it inside the aircraft

because it might get stuck if there's

that gets merged you're probably making

it anywhere in the land you're probably

gonna be ditched in the water if you do

have any issues here if you're

uncomfortable this you want to go a

little higher different method all this

you can avoid the zipper you can

actually go up into the bravo airspace

get a clearance rate from already it's

our we'll talk about that in a totally

separate video red super cup of George

Washington Bridge southbound 1100 yeah

that's pretty cool actually

if you look underneath so that it's a

double-decker bridge do you see the

traffic oh and underneath also if you

have modern avionics in your craft don't

be surprised by the 25 different air

space terrain obstacle and traffic

alerts you're gonna be getting flowing

down the river up to you whether you

think it's safer to either turn off and

disable all those alerts before you get

down onto the river or if you want to

leave them all on and here's a quick

example of what another aircraft nearby

would sound like coming up the river in

the opposite direction so he's passing

the intrepid at night in her feet

northbound on the eastern side the river

should be no factor for us so we've got

a lot of other aircraft around us lots

of helicopters lots of airplanes it's

basically says we have a passenger

aboard Steph she's going to keep your

eye out please do keep your eyes out and

let me know if you see any of the

aircraft obviously we see lots of oh

don't point them out to me unless

they're getting close to us

I'm getting close to them if you just

see other airplanes you're gonna see

lots of up no point mention in it and

distract the pilot but if you see

anything that's super Poli on the

collision course you're not quite sure

please do but Jeanette oh good you got

one I live in a clock yep

goddamn insane he's crashing of the

river should be no factor

all right next to me for a reporting

point is the intrepid we're looking for

that is parked at the docks here on the

eastern side right next to the city does

the large aircraft carrier will be easy

to spot and these helicopters are like

bees they are everywhere and of course

you can always make more position

reports if you think something is quite

wrong here you could always say 2 miles

north the interpretive you feel like

you're on a collision course with

someone so if you feel like somebody

else doesn't necessarily see you if you

want to make an additional position

Airport totally fine there's the six

mandatory points and then there's ball

anytime you feel untuk well you can go

ahead make one also be aware helicopters

do produce wake turbulence and we're

applying in the wake turbulence right

now to us who's cruising along at 11

under feet also and it's gonna feel just

like this you know the airplane rockets

I decide if you climb a little higher

you should get out of the way turbulence

or step side to side wake turbulence on

the helicopter is identical to that of

an aircraft one of helicopters at the

forward plate

red super cup intrepid southbound 1,100

other thing to mention here a really

good idea to bring a hat sunglasses and

this iPad here serving as a great visor

for me to keep the Sun out of my eyes if

the Sun was in my eyes

chance to be saying after this traffic

have eerily reduced so a really good

idea to have something to protect your

eyes and make sure you can see


yeah these buildings too can also kind

of disappear in the Sun because they all

are are shiny with glass and all that so

really keep a close eye out make sure

you're staying over the river make sure

you're keeping up your situational

awareness do not be taking pictures of

you are the pilot this is a place where

the pilot flies on the passengers get to

take some pictures or you wear a Super

Cub clock southbound 1,100

so I read your bridges 700 first course

on southbound 500 football

all right so certain when the Statue of

Liberty is going to be at the highest

altitude practical below 1000 feet msl

Super Cub and statue after 500 Russian

we're going to get some beautiful

pictures here red Super Cub Statue of

Liberty circling and occasionally I'm

going to go ahead and roll out of this

turn here because I want to pick up that

wing check for traffic roll right back

in keeping a sharp eye out here circling

about 900 950 feet we'll keep making

radio calls every minute or so after

making a few laps around the statue in

some awesome pictures we decided to

escape the hornet's nest of helicopters

and keep heading southbound red Super

Cub Statue of Liberty south down and


1,100 1,100 we are heading to southbound

we're getting go fly over B Z BZ is the

Verona's though woo of the bridge yeah

we're just gonna call it BZ it's a ways

your FASFA louis sorry they're

self-obsessed year for hundreds of us mi

so sorry

thank god this appears on the stuff

there got a pass underneath yeah don't

feel like going all the way down here

we're gonna go ahead and check we're

clear we're gonna start making that turn

northbound here red Super Cub mild north

easy Bridge northbound 1182 o'clock and

bouncing fours I'm gonna make this turn

steep because I don't want to stay

playing put that weight down here we see

out of it there we are cruising north

now it's not a bad idea when you are

reversing course on the river to

probably make a little bit more of a

radio call than just the specific

waypoint you're passing what direction

and your altitude and the type aircraft

and all that standard information so you

might say something more like hey red

Super Cub

two miles north of easy bridge chain

and course change in direction reversing

course whatever you want to say and

proceeding northbound up the river

something that's going to indicate

people hey I'm making a u-turn I'm

turning here and of course don't stay

with your wing down too long don't

create a blind spot for yourself be very

aware when you're turning people are

expect you to be proceeding straight

south straight north and if you are

gonna make a u-turn like that

keep your eyes out and make sure you're

letting other people know that you're

about to do that giving them a heads up

so they can keep an eye out for you

that's probably going to be the prime

time to run into something or the other

time to run in something would probably

be when you're just not paying attention

try and take a picture or something when

you should be looking out the window

instead so that's really the bulk of it

of course that's all going southbound

along the river going northbound same

exact thing you find those required

reporting points you call them out you

announce your aircraft type your

position your heading and your altitude

right so it's going to be something like

when you read Super Cub George

Washington Bridge

southbound 1,100 1,200 1,000 feet

whatever it is now come a little side

notes in there you can announce more

than just the required reporting points

you can find more reporting points on

the tact chart also just from local

tribal knowledge or from local knowledge

of what other guys are announcing like

Holland bridge Governors Island things

like that you can also of course if you

feel the need to make more announcements

say you're a mile south of the USS

Intrepid you don't have to wait an extra

30 45 seconds for yourself to get there

you can make an extra report hey I'm

just one mile south of the USS Intrepid

northbound 1,100 whatever it might be so

communicate amongst yourselves the whole

idea is just for the pilots to talk to

each other and not run into each other

that's really the whole idea here and

the course remain clear the bravo

airspace unless you're gonna talk to the

tower or approach or whoever and get

clearance into the bravo so a couple

other side notes to mention here things

like don't exceed 140 knots indicated

air speed make sure you have your

anti-collision lights on strobe lights

landing lights now I'd like to turn on

all of your lights on your aircraft

unless it's going to cause a hazard to


more lights the better for the most part

right try to draw attention to yourself

always keep your head on a swivel in

there use your passengers to help you

look for traffic and although it's one

of those places where you really want to

take pictures and your passengers really

want to take pictures never take

pictures as a pilot the passengers take

care of that for you and try to mitigate

that as well so that they can keep their

eyes outside the airplane looking for

traffic it's great to flight

on the river and if you are just

transiting down the river say north to

south of you're not stopping anywhere if

you don't intend to fly over anywhere

change direction anything like that they

really request that you stay between a

thousand and one thousand three hundred

right so there's this note here on the

knee board little chart that we have

from the FAA safety team that says hey

if you're going to be just transiting

the area you're not stopping anywhere

and you're not going to be changing

direction or hovering over anything then

please stay between 1300 and 1000 feet

if you are going to be landing in any of

these heliports or you're going to be

you know changing direction up and down

the river or whatever then okay you're

not considered transient traffic you're

considered a local traffic and yeah okay

you can be operating below a thousand

feet the whole entire route is super

busy probably the busiest area is the

Statue of Liberty but honestly the whole

entire river is super super busy so keep

your eyes outside if you want to fly

around the East River that's a little

bit beyond the purview of this video

just realize that you will have to talk

to ATC at that point you're going to

need to talk to LaGuardia Tower or

possibly Newark Tower depending on where

you're at get a hold of somebody get a

squawk code get tagged up probably get a

clearance into the Bravo

and you know it's ATC they're there to

be your friend these aren't the main

tower frequencies that are using to land

all the big airliners that this is a

separate guy in the tower on a different

frequency you're gonna be talking to

them when you use these frequencies that

are on this chart here from the FAA

safety team so yeah feel free to ask for

what you need hey I wanted to do this

this this I want to go to Empire you

know over Manhattan and I want to go to

the East River hey I want to fly over

Central Park first from the Hudson River

and then down the East River and then

back up to the Hudson River sure

whatever you want tell them what you

want tell what else you do you want to

do that they'll coordinate with you and

they'll do whatever they can to

accommodate your requests last thing

definitely have the knee board

supplement from the FAA safety team

printed out not just on your iPad but

have it printed out hardcopy really

great document lots of helpful

information required reporting points

frequencies all that sort of stuff can

be found on there also make sure you

have a New York tactimon alaria chart or

helicopter route chart available on the

airplane to also reference has a lot of

reporting points a lot of great

information on there as well so you can

have that in your iPad or paper chart

too always handy to have that back up as

a paper chart and that's really it for

this video so hopefully that was helpful

if you have any questions on this at all

of course leave in the comments below

lots of flight schools in the area lots

of safe eyes in the area that can tell

you how to do this it's really quite


follow the rules and make it pretty

smooth going there either daytime or

nighttime and nighttime is super

beautiful highly recommend you take the

opportunity don't forget your safety

gear although it may not be required

highly recommend some flotation devices

and warm clothes because that some cold

dirty nasty water and there's not a lot

of places to land if you do have any

problems especially in a fixed-wing

aircraft so that's about it guys you

know what to do if you can't fly

everyday flight my Capcom we will see

you all on the next one hopefully we'll

see you flying down the Hudson River